Fix Baxter Street (or get out of our Waze)

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Fix Baxter Street (or get out of our Waze)

Los Angeles, CA

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The Problem

Apps like Waze route drivers over Baxter Street, which features a 32-percent grade street dating back to the 19th century. Accidents and property damage are increasing, because neither the apps’ traffic algorithms nor Los Angeles road signs account for Baxter’s dangerous configuration.

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Felipe Ibañez
Posted suggestion on Jun 21st, 2018
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Per the LA Times, Baxter Street resident Talkington said that Councilman Mitch O'Farrell's office asked the city Transportation Department to study the matter, and two possible solutions have been proposed.

One is to turn Baxter Street into a one-way avenue heading east, but as Talkington told me, that could create new traffic nightmares and penalize Echo Park residents trying to go west and north.

The other is to prohibit left turns onto Baxter from Lakeshore Drive, a popular shortcut maneuver.

Genevieve Park
Posted suggestion on May 15th, 2018
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Google Maps models the ever-changing real world by mapping for ground truth. This means that our map reflects any measures taken by local agencies to protect their citizens—for example, blocking off a steep road, or implementing turn restrictions. 

Should the local agency decide to restrict Baxter Street, this change will be taken into account when routing drivers through the Los Angeles area.

Felipe Ibañez
Posted suggestion on Jun 21st, 2018
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Per the LA Times, Todd Walker, who lives near Baxter Street, pitched a modified option. "My thought is that if there was no left turn" onto Baxter from Lakeshore "on weekdays from 4 to 7 p.m., Waze would be legally obligated to take it off their website and it would no longer show up," he said.

Noam Bardin (Waze CEO)
Posted suggestion on May 14th, 2018
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It’s important to note that Waze does not ‘control’ traffic but our maps do reflect public roads that federal and local authorities have identified and built for its citizens.

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Paul Krekorian, Member of Los Angeles City Council District 11
Replied on April 10, 2018

I THEREFORE MOVE that the Council INSTRUCT the Department of Transportation to report with answers to the following questions:

1. What City data is made available to makers of mapping apps or software?

2. What data does the City receive from mapping-app makers?

3. What benefits, if any, does the City receive from its previously announced partnership with these companies?

4. What efforts has the City made to engage mapping-app makers to address neighborhood concerns, and what has been the response from that engagement?

David Ryu, Member of Los Angeles City Council District 12
Replied on May 14, 2018

After numerous attempts to reach a resolution with Waze for the threats to public safety and infrastructure caused by their mobile technology, it has become clear that any and all legal options should be considered. After many years of trying to bring Waze to the table, it has become clear that this company refuses any responsibility for the traffic problems their app creates or the concerns of residents and City officials.

Donald Trump, President of the United States of America
Replied on May 15, 2018
Waze is history!

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